Frequently Asked Questions
Pricing
What's the $49 first-month offer?
It's full AO Trading membership — every crypto signal, every trader call, the full community, and AO Shadow Pro — for $49 in your first month. You only pay $49 once. It's not a trial. You keep full access for the full month.
What does membership cost after the first month?
$149/month ongoing when you come in through our BONKERS intro offer. The public list price is $199/month. Either way, no annual contract — cancel whenever.
Do you offer a free trial?
Yes. Log into shadow.aotrading.io with Discord and you automatically get a 7-day trial of the full stack: AO Shadow Pro, the AO Trading Discord, every crypto signal, and live trader commentary. No credit card. No email opt-in. It's the only trial we run.
What happens after the 7-day trial?
You drop to Shadow's free tier (automatic TP/SL, DCA, trailing stops — permanent, no charge). To keep Pro features and the AO Trading community, subscribe through the BONKERS $49 offer or the $199 standard rate. You lose nothing you built during the trial.
Do you offer refunds?
We handle refunds case-by-case through support. If something's broken or you got charged in error, message us and we'll sort it. We don't promise blanket refunds because the $49 first month is already priced as "try before you commit."
Is there a minimum account size?
For AO Crypto: no minimum from us — most members start with $500-$1,000, but trade sizes scale to your account. For AO Forex: $10,000 minimum because we need enough account size to safely copy trades. For AO Shadow alone (free tier): any size.
Products
What is AO Shadow?
AO Shadow is our proprietary trade-management software for Bybit. It handles automatic take-profit, stop-loss, trailing stops, DCA grids, copy trading from our verified traders, and AI-driven risk alerts. Core features (Sentinel position management, select bots) are free forever. Advanced features (Echo copy trading, Concierge AI, the full bot suite) unlock with AO Trading membership.
What's the difference between AO Crypto and AO Forex?
AO Crypto is a Discord signal service — our traders call entries with targets and stops, you take the trades on your own exchange. Covered by AO Trading membership.
AO Forex is a fully automated copy-trading service on MetaTrader 5 — you connect your broker account, trades copy in automatically, you don't have to do anything. No subscription — we earn 30% of net new profits only.
Do you offer forex copy trading?
Yes — AO Forex copies our gold (XAUUSD) strategy to your MT5 account through a supported broker. 73% win rate, 120% verified return, over 1,100 trades tracked on MyFXBook. Setup is about 5 minutes.
Is AO Forex included with AO Trading membership?
No. AO Forex is a separate, independent product. No subscription — you only pay the 30% profit share when you actually profit. You can be an AO Forex member without ever joining AO Trading, and vice versa.
What's AO Polymarket?
Quantitative strategies for prediction markets on Polymarket. Currently internal only — running with our own capital. AO Trading members will get first access when it launches.
Results & Verification
How are your results verified?
Every crypto trade is logged automatically through exchange APIs — our traders cannot post a signal after the fact or delete a losing trade. Every forex trade is verified on MyFXBook, the third-party industry standard for forex track records. See it all on aotrading.io/results.
Is there a public leaderboard?
Yes. aotrading.io/results shows every active trader, their win rate, total trades, and P&L — refreshed every 60 seconds. You can drill into any individual trader and see every trade they've ever made.
Can I see past trades?
Every trade, public, forever. Click any trader on the results page for their full trade history including losing trades. We don't hide the losses.
What's your overall win rate?
Group average is around 73% across 4,700+ verified crypto trades (check live stats for current numbers). Win rates vary by trader and by timeframe — we publish the full breakdown including losing streaks.
Trial & Setup
How does the 7-day Shadow trial work?
Go to shadow.aotrading.io, click "Sign in with Discord," and your 7-day trial starts automatically. You get full Shadow Pro plus the full AO Trading Discord and all crypto signals. No credit card required.
Do I need a Bybit account to use Shadow?
Yes — Shadow manages trades on Bybit. If you don't have one, sign up (ideally through our referral link — it helps fund the free tier), create a trade-only API key, and paste it into Shadow. Takes about five minutes.
Can I use Shadow without linking an exchange?
You can log in and explore the interface, but Shadow can't manage trades without an API key. No API key = no trades to manage. It's read-only until you connect.
What's a trade-only API key?
It's a Bybit API key with permission to place and cancel orders but not withdraw funds. Your money cannot leave your account through Shadow — we literally don't have permission. You stay in control, and you can revoke the key in Bybit's dashboard any time.
Risk
Are profits guaranteed?
No. Trading involves risk and you can lose money. Anyone who guarantees profit in crypto or forex is either lying or about to lose your money. We publish every losing trade alongside every winning trade for exactly this reason — edge over time is the honest story; "guaranteed profits" is not.
What happens if I lose money?
You lose money. We don't cover trading losses — nobody legitimate does. What we can do is show you the full historical record so you understand the risk profile of each trader before you follow them, give you Shadow's position-management tools to cap downside (stop losses, trailing stops, DCA guards), and never pressure you to trade bigger than you're comfortable with.
How does AO Forex handle losing months?
Losing month = we earn zero. Our 30% profit share is calculated against a high-water mark — we only earn on profit above your previous account peak. If you drawdown and climb back, we don't get paid twice for the same dollar. Zero recovery, zero fee.
Support
How do I get help?
The fastest route is Discord. Open a ticket in the AO Trading server and a real person responds — most questions are answered within a couple of hours. For account or billing issues, email support@aotrading.io.
Is support Discord-only or do you also do email?
Both work. Discord is faster because our whole team lives there. Email is better for anything involving a transaction ID or attachment. We answer both.
Do I need Discord to be a member?
Effectively yes — the community, the signals, and the live trader commentary all live in Discord. You don't need to be active or talk, but you need an account to see signals. If that's a blocker, tell us in a ticket and we'll work something out.